I’m curious as to why this title has not been more successful in its KS program? With just 5 days to run, it might make it, but not many of the needed expansion goals will make it.
Poor planning and marketing? Here is their Facebookpage I see that Waterloo is selling for 69 Euro and based upon components seems like very small print run and therefore higher price.
Lack of interest?
It has some interesting ideas, seems to be positioned at the highly accessible range of complexity and has relatively pretty bits.
Who is backing?
Who has played the Waterloo edition?
Should I try it?
I’ve given the rules a quick skim, asides some awkward translation items it is set at the Brigade level with a miniatures feel to it, some detail [ i.e. it has squares, charges and 2 types of musket fire], but then lacks Orde Mixte? Or column based attacks.
There appear to be no special rules for Austerlitz battle asides fog which seems unusual. How does it handle Davouts arrival? What about the eccentric characters and befuddled command of the Coalition? How are these key factors dealt with?
In any case we wish them well. Please chime in and share your thoughts if you have played this system and help me understand what is special enough for me to plop down 55 Euro.
I bought the Waterloo game based on some videos I watched but have not played yet. I backed this game too. I was also surprised that it may not make it on ks. Most of the wargames on ks , at least the ones I look forward to, get backed almost immediately.
I faved it.
But the stretch goals are needed for me to warrant backing it.
I’m also not 100% convinced by the visual style.
I am a miniatures gamer who is more and more lacking the space/opponents for miniatures wargaming so the miniatures-style rules do appeal to me.
I have the Waterloo game and have backed the Austerlitz game. Again, as said by Ronald, I also sometimes lack the space to play miniatures and have found that this is an acceptable alternative. The waterloo rules were poorly translated until a second version was provided online, but Paul Comben has translated the Austerlitz rules and these are really good. The waterloo game plays well. I must admit that I am biased, since I am a bit of a fanatic when it comes to all matters Napoleonic.
Hi all
answering the author’s questions:
– already funded at over 127% and unblocked 7 S.G
– you only need one to unlock one more with € 13,000
– We entered the last 48 hours!
– There are attacks in column (you can download the rules of both Austerlitz (in the ks) and Waterloo (in the website of the publisher in the download area:
https://www.trafalgareditions.com/apoyo-a-waterloo/
– all the problems of the Allied command are clearly represented in the Austerlitz game rules (please download the regulations and read them). There are special rules to reflect the chaos in the Allied command.
– There are special rules in Austerlitz that there is not in Waterloo, as is the game with fog of war, that is, playing in secret to your opponent, which gives it an unusual power of attraction.
There are only 48 hours left to finish the Ks
Thanks my friends!
bravo
Hi – the actual rules from Waterloo 1815 (1st Edition) regarding columns depict advantages – like inferior firepower but also point to the potential benefits of attacking in column formation – like concentration, positioning (use of space) and – not to forget – speed.
In my opinion this models the ‘Napoleonic attack column topic’ quite well (link to the current Waterloo 1815 rules):
https://www.dropbox.com/s/uit3ica0g86nmpz/Waterloo%201815%20English%20Rules%202.0%20February_2017_Rv.pdf?dl=0
–> Please e.g. look at § 7.7.1.2, § 7.7.2, § 7.7.2.1, § 9.2, § 9.3 and § 9.3.2 (” 9.3.2
Column Formation:often used by infantry to assault enemy defensive
positions. With a smaller frontage, a column could pierce enemy postions more effectively, threatening hand-to-hand combat. This formation is also useful to move further than line or square, and can create handy intervals between units. Cavalry
in column, however, cannot charge.”)
Cheers!
Thanks for the note. I will review!